Why Black Men Won't Vote For...

0:02 Speak some truths, if you don't mind. Yes. Because my understanding, based on reports I'm getting from campaigns and communities, is that um, we have not yet seen the same kinds of energy and turnout in all quarters of our neighborhoods and communities as we saw when I was walking And you're coming up with all kinds of reasons and excuses. I've got a problem with that because, because part of it makes me think I'm speaking to men directly.

0:50 Part of it makes me think that, well, you just aren't feeling the idea of having a woman as president and you're coming up with other alternatives and other reasons for that. Yeah. Because. The women in our lives have been in our backs this entire time. And so now you're thinking about sitting out or even supporting somebody who has a history of denigrating you. That's not acceptable.

1:31 That's not, this shouldn't even be a question. Why does the former president need to lecture in this way? If you're, if you're looking for votes, why can't you, you know, like you would do it. Any audience persuade your audience that see, that's the problem right there. So I have people asking, why aren't black men voting for Kamala Harris? And my, my question to you is why are they supposed to see?

2:13 That's the question black men are asking. What made you think that we were supposed to? And demand 360 starts in three, two, one. You've tuned in to man to man 360, the show for men by men dealing with all subjects. The twist here is we come from a Biblical worldview to encourage and empower men to make it in life through the power of Jesus Christ. Alright, choppin it up, men talkin about everything you're talkin about.

3:00 Sometimes it's cool, and sometimes it's here. This is Man to Man 360. Yeah. Welcome to a brand new episode of man to man 360. And of course, I'm your host, Darrell Anderson. And today I want to pick up on a hot, hot topic that's happening across the country, especially in this political season. I told you at the beginning of this new fifth season of our. Show that I was going to get a little bit more into the political part of it. I tend to stay away from it, but it, it, that's gonna be almost impossible to avoid at this point.

3:43 We gotta jump in and, and this is definitely a hot time because I think even more so, more than anything, men are, the big topic right now is dealing with men and more specifically black men. And so this is a conversation where I have to jump in. I have to jump into this and so as we prepare for this some of this is off the cuff, but some of it's not, I, I, I'm going to be playing some clips and, and sharing some things with you and this episode now, again, this is my opinion on some things, but. I think that my opinion is based on, well, first of all, my own experience as a, as a black man, but also the men that I deal with and, and what we're seeing out there in the world and especially specifically in the nation when it comes to men and black men concerning, Politics and let's, let's be very clear that the topic is, or the question that everyone is asking is why are not, why aren't black men voting for Kamala Harris?

4:53 It should be obvious that, that they should be. And I have some strong opinions on this, on why it's not that obvious. And we're going to go into some of that in, in just a minute, but also to you know, This, this topic can unravel into so many different areas, and I can't wait to get into some of it because one of the things to our, our, our show has talked on this topic indirectly for five seasons from season one. And, and this is going to be a part two. So this week I'm going to touch on the more of the Kamala Harris piece, I guess you can say, or, or try to answer just slightly, or just briefly try to answer that question.

5:41 And the next episode is going to be the clips of all the different episodes where we sort of pointed you in that direction to show. That I, I'm not just making this up and pulling this out of the air today in 2024, but that we've been answering that question since 20 20, 20 21, 20 22, 20 23, and now in 2024. So we're gonna jump right into that and I can't wait. And, and I got some, some, a couple of clips. I, I don't wanna do, you know, bombard you with clips, but I have some clips of the backup, my point, some audio clips of, of. I'll just say specific people to give you an example of what I'm talking about.

6:23 And we're going to go into there in just a second. Listen, as usual, I want you to go to man to man, 360. com. That's man. The number two man, 360. com. And there is where you can follow the show and let us know what you think about the show, and then also share the show, but more importantly, definitely follow the show. So that every week you get this podcast popping up in your, on your device, your mobile devices or wherever when it, when it pops up on Saturday mornings at 9 a. m. Okay, well, let's jump right into this. I want to, mention a couple of points. There's a lot of different places I can go with this.

7:06 And so let's do this. How should I go? How should I start this? I actually know what I want to start with the video clip or the audio piece from president Obama or former president Obama. Talking to black men, I think this is a good piece here and that I think this is the one that really started all the backlash for, because they already saw that there was a slump with black men wanting to support her port Kamala Harris and With President Barack Obama stepping in it actually made things worse rather than better So let's play a piece of that clip Because My understanding Based on reports I'm getting from campaigns and communities, is that we have not yet seen the same kinds of energy and turnout in all ports of our neighborhoods and communities as we saw when I was running.

8:19 And you're coming up with all kinds of reasons and excuses. I've got a problem with that, because, because part of it makes me think, and I'm speaking to men directly, part of it makes me think that, well, you just aren't feeling the idea of having a woman as president, and you're coming up with other alternatives and other reasons for that. But the lecturing didn't stop there. As Barack Obama put on a stern, fatherly act, he asked black men to learn from black women, whom the former president claims are against Donald Trump.

9:03 Because the women in our lives have been getting our backs this entire time. They've been raising us and working and having our backs. And When we get in trouble, and the system's not working for us, they're the ones who are out there, marching and protesting, and, and so now, you're thinking about sitting out, or even supporting somebody, who has a history of denigrating you?

9:43 That's not acceptable. That's not it. This shouldn't even be a question. What Obama meant was that the Democratic Party is seeing a slump in support for Kamala Harris among black men, and that it was a major concern in the upcoming presidential election. What started out as a fatherly lecture came back to bite back Obama. Black men took to social media to share their frustration. While some cracked jokes about the former president, others told him to get lost and go back to his mansion.

10:25 Most users said that they did not need anyone to tell them whom they should be voting for. Some black men took pot shots at Barack Obama. One user even said that Obama acted like a black father himself by disappearing for years and only coming back when he had the authority. Many accused Obama, who was also the first Black American president, of doing nothing for the Black community. Barack Obama wanted to gather more support for Vice President Kamala Harris, but he's managed to do the opposite. Recent polls show that not just Black men and Black voters, but even Latin Americans are pivoting towards Donald Trump over Kamala Harris.

11:10 Okay. So I want to jump in right there and we can end that for now. So a couple of things I want to comment just on the, on the video or the audio piece. Why does the former president need to lecture anyone? If you're, if you're looking for votes, why can't you like you would do it? Any audience persuade your audience that, see, that's the problem right there. So I, I have people asking why aren't black men voting for Kamala Harris and my, my question to you is why are they supposed to see?

11:56 That's the question black men are asking. What made you think that we were supposed to see black people as a whole? Now, mind you, the Kamala Harris thing is not new. This is, this is partly about Kamala Harris, but it's partly not because for the long as we kept hearing. That black people vote 98 percent or 92 percent Democrat or whatever, and just to let you know I'm not, I'm not trying to point anyone to one particular side. My stance here is once we start talking about black men or men in general, then I actually have a say on that.

12:38 And because that's what this podcast is about, we still stick to a biblical worldview, which I'm going to go to in a moment, but this is a podcast, a show episode for men, it's for men by men dealing with all subjects. The twist here is we come from a biblical worldview where we encourage and empower men to make it in life. Through the power of Jesus Christ, amen. So in this case here, why does the former president or anyone for that matter, and I'm talking to a lot of people listening, especially black pastors, which I'm going to go to in a moment toward the end of this episode. Why do you believe or feel that black men are supposed to vote for?

13:25 Without winning us over, see everybody else gets to be won over. So I'm going to go a little personal here. I'm not going to go too deep here, but I'm going to go, well, no, no, I'm going to go a little personal here because it's assumed that, you know, if you're black, you're Democrat. Well, I stopped being a Democrat in 1992, and that was due to my salvation in 1986. As I heard things over those, what, four years or whatever it is, or was it four years, eight years, six years, whatever it is, I kept hearing that the things that I was believing in was in contrary to what my politicians were speaking on. And so. From that point, I went independent and I've been independent ever since.

14:07 So I get to vote for whoever I want to vote for. Nobody tells me who I need to vote for. And you got to understand something. Black men are the exact same way. I am not unique in that. Black men vote for who they want to vote for. They don't vote for who someone is going to tell them to vote. They're men at the end of the day. And if you don't respect that, you're going to lose them. And that's especially talking to clergy. No, there's no such thing as clergy. Black pastors. Because I'm going to go somewhere in a minute, it's going to be, it's going to feel like a crazy twist. And it is to some degree, a crazy twist of the black pastors, the voting, the elections, and all of that.

14:56 I'm going to go somewhere in a few minutes, that's going to expose all of this. And I hope it helps a lot of people, including us in ministry and from the leadership and pastors and whatnot. But just black men in general, because there's black men who are listening to this. I want you to be encouraged that you stand firm on what you believe, regardless of what side you decide to vote on, you should know why you vote for who you vote for, and you should be voting for what you believe in, not what someone else is pushing you to. Because see, one of the things that I, I learned back around 1992 was that, and especially as I've talked to others guys who were Sort of in the, in the si situation I was in and or either more some of'em were more con conservative.

15:44 Some of them were, and it's about black men, by the way. Some of them were conservative, some of'em were Republican. Some of them were Democrats. Some of'em were independent, and a lot of'em were more in the independent. Most black men, by the way, are independent or conservative, but the media don't let you know that. So when you keep hearing that 98 and 92 percent of all Blacks are Democrat, that has been a lie for the longest. Because for starters, it does not include those who are not registered and say they opt out of the system in the first place. Now, for all of y'all who get smug and say, well, see, then they don't count. They do. Because see, they prevent one party from saying that they own all of us.

16:32 That, that's the key right there that prevents any party from saying that they own all black people because 92 and 98 percent is pretty much all black people. If you really believe those numbers. And so that prevents that. So there's a lot of black men who didn't vote for anybody in the last 12 years. They didn't vote for Trump. They didn't vote for Obama. They didn't vote for Biden. They didn't vote for George W. They didn't vote for Clinton. They didn't vote for any of these guys. Because they said, listen, I don't, I I'm out. I, I want out of the system because for the most part, and this is, this is where my anger and why I sort of as I was looking at politics from 92 on, I always saw that everybody else in my country and all the people that around me, and all the people that I work with, especially the white guys, the white women.

17:27 The Hispanic, the whether it be Italian the Jewish all these other people, everybody had a choice, see that's key. Everybody had a choice. And so every politician would go to that group, whether it be a Native American, Indian, whoever, they would go to that group and try to win them over with their policies or promises. And hope that those people agree with them and vote for them there, they would ask for their vote. And I start to realize that only black people in this country were never hoarded.

18:14 We were never, no one was trying to come win black people. It was just assumed. Well, y'all in your corner, y'all going to just do what y'all do on all the time. And the first time it really hit when president Obama was running, I believe it was the second time when he was running the second time, and I think it was the black caucus or whatever that was waiting for him to come down to, to him and Obama sent. His vice president, Joe Biden, instead, while Obama traveled to, he went to see Brad Pitt.

18:54 So he went to Brad Pitt's house to win Brad Pitt's vote or get money from Brad Pitt or whatever. And instead, Joe Biden was sent to the, the black caucus. So this was their one chance for them to see a black president that they've supported come down to where they were, but instead he sent Joe Biden. Because, because, and then that's when you heard the phrase, well, I know y'all got my back. And that's when folks start selling the t shirts I I got his back. I got his back, but that was a, that was a disrespect because they wanted to see you. They didn't want your back. They wanted to see you.

19:36 So throughout history, black people, all always, we never got courted. We never get courted. And especially from the Democrat party, it's assumed Well, we, we, we got y'all. We ain't gotta court y'all. So they'll court the gays, they'll court the, the, the, the Jews. They'll court the Native American, they'll court the Muslims. They court the, they court the Catholics. They court the white, the Italian, they'll court the Asian. They court everybody, but they don't court black people. And so it's, it's not necessary to find out what you want, what you need, or to court you with any promises or policies or any of that.

20:21 It's just assume that you're going to come along for the ride because you always have, you're not going to get anything out of it, but you're going to come along with the ride and see after this, the first and then the second term of Obama. Black men, more than anyone else, realized, well, hold on now, what did we get out of those eight years? And they realized they got nothing. Because during those eight years, The former president courted the gay crowd, and they got a lot of things out of that, including painting the White House rainbow with lights. Women got a lot out of it. There was a lot of especially when you look at the Supreme Court justices that were selected at the time.

21:01 I think one was Hispanic and I think one of well, Listen, it was women, Hispanic, and I don't know if one was gay and I don't, I don't have that. I don't know, but probably not, but the fact with those are the people that Obama was courting. And so as we say that it's like, well, what, what was black people to do? And so they got tired. We got tired. Well, I was already out, but black men, especially more than black women got tired of putting out their vote and getting nothing in return. Where it gets really insulting is in this case, in this video, where the president is telling you that you should be voting for this person and angry that you're not, well, who are you to be angry with men?

21:51 Now I'm going to go somewhere with this because black pastors, if you're listening. You, you, this, this is a, this is an area you need to be very careful and trust me on this. Trust me on this. I got receipts. Trust me, I'm giving you advice that's gonna help you and hopefully save your church. From a, you may already have a 30, 70 split between men and women, anyway, 37 or worse, 20, 80, or 10, 90. If you want to reverse that number, please listen to what I'm going to tell you next. Stop disrespecting black men. If you have a black church, that is. Matter of fact, let me keep, let me kick, take race off for a minute because what's happening right now, it's not just black men.

22:36 This is men period, white men, Hispanic men, black men. Men are not voting for this particular candidate. So men in general, this is man to man 360 and pastors. I don't care if you black pastors, Hispanic pastors white pastors, Jewish, whoever you are. If you want to win men, you need to start listening to men and stop lecturing men. Because in lecturing, it's telling them that I don't need to hear from you. You just need to hear from me. And I'm angry, like, like you're a boy and I'm your daddy.

23:18 And that's the way Obama spoke to these men. And that's the way they received it. And that's why it turned out reverse for what he wanted. Men went off. Black men specifically went off. Now, I'm gonna tell you, this is very scary because I want to go into a little bit of history here. I'm going to go into, I, I, I, I, I do have time. I got as much time as always in my podcast. I can do whatever I want. If I want to do a three hour podcast, I can do a three hour podcast. But I'm going to do a lot of things on the next episode next week. where I'm going to show you just what we've been talking about all these years and all these episodes and all these seasons.

24:01 But on this one, I want to point out a couple of things where again, this is a a podcast that speaks to men from a biblical worldview. And so for all those pastors, specifically black pastors that are listening, and this is not just for black pastors. This is for pastors in general. You need to be listening to this. I want to take you somewhere real quick. I'm going to, I'm going to make it sort of quick. Actually, you know what? Let me pause for a second. I'm going to pause and I'm going to go to a break now. And then when I come back from the break, Then I want to be able to share a couple of insights with you guys go into some history and then I want to connect some dots and I hope that this will be something that will, that it would be very clear.

24:51 I'm not going to go too deep and not spend too much time. And I want to make it quick enough so that. You can get it all in these small nuggets and go from there. So hopefully I'll spend about another 20 minutes or so, 20 to 30 minutes on this next part, but let me go ahead and do a break right now. And when I get back, I want to share some history and some clips. Of where we are today that started literally about almost 80 years ago. And those are the chickens that's coming home to roost today. And that's why you're seeing what you're seeing right now. I'll be right back in just a few. We'll pick up from there right after this.

25:43 The Man Cave is developed around, we call it the five pillars. There's praise and worship, where we sing a song or two, and really just invite the presence of God in, get the guys singing and clapping and whatever, and really make a push on getting guys into the music. Because typically guys like to avoid praise, or lifting of hands, or singing and that type of stuff, so we really put a focus on that. And then we go right into the music. From that into prayer, you know, intercession prayer, we ask guys if there's certain things that they want us to pray for, to agree with them in prayer for and we make sure to focus it on them. Sometimes guys will say, Hey, listen, I got this neighbor. Can you pray for them? And we're like, no, no, no. We want to know what is it that you need prayer for?

26:25 Because, because you're the neighbor, that's your job to pray for your neighbor. From there, we actually go into the competition part. Now that's the exciting part of the man cave. It just creates that competitive piece, makes it exciting. But again, It gets that testosterone bubbling up and everything else. And there's a reason to that really too. I've been doing men's ministry now for almost 30 years. A lot of times men don't really have those men focused things at churches. So in some cases, the guys that can feel a little feminine or emasculated in some cases. And, and because of that, we want to make sure that there's a, a masculine feel to men's fellowship. It's both fun. It's inviting. It's also used as a fish bait to get guys out.

27:06 Yeah. The other reason that we do competition is so we can create two teams. And in creating two teams, we create a camaraderie between those guys. They stay on those teams for the duration. You don't go from second Friday to second Friday. No, you're contacting guys in between guys, able to reach out. Guys are able to, Hey man, I'm really dealing with this thing. I'm struggling with this thing so they can reach out to somebody. We go from the competition part and then we go into the work. We go into scripture, we do some teaching and then we make. Breakout into breakout groups. The breakout groups allows guys to be able to answer some things or share their thoughts on those same topics that we just preached a few minutes ago.

27:47 The word is a two edged sword. It cuts open things. It exposes us, to ourselves at least. To what's really happening on the inside or the things we've been trying to cover up and hide. And then we break from there and then we, we eat. That's a great time to be able to dive in and just really see how guys are doing. Pastors and churches don't have a men's ministry. You're missing out on the opportunity to. Free that man from that thing he's been trapped in, that stronghold that's been in his life. N's ministry allows him to be free, vulnerable, and then free.

28:59 All right, we're back and I want to jump right into this because like I said, I want to bring in a little history and I think this sort of well, you know, let me jump right in. And at first you're going to be wondering how this connects or why this is important, but I think this is super important to why. What's going on now has been building up for a while and well, let's jump right in there. Many, well, I shouldn't say many of you, I'm going to say maybe not many of you have ever heard of something called the Negro project, the Negro project.

29:41 The Negro Project is was instigated in 1939 by a woman named, and this name hopefully sounds very familiar to you, Margaret Sanger. Margaret Sanger is one of the first major undertakings of the New Birth Control Federation of America, or the BCFA, and this was this was a product of a merger between the American Birth Control League and Sanger's Birth Control Clinical Research Bureau, and one of more, the more controversial campaigns of the birth control movement developed by Sanger's White birth control reformers who consulted with African Americans for help in promoting the project only well after its inception.

30:32 The Negro Project and associated campaigns were, nevertheless, wildly supported by such leaders as Mary McLeod Bethune, W. E. B. DuBois, and Reverend Adam Clayton Powell Jr influenced strongly by both the eugenics movement and the progressive welfare programs of the new deal era. The new, the, the, the Negro project was from the start largely indifferent to the needs of the black community and constructed in terms and with perceptions that today's smack of racism. So when we talk about racism, a lot of it started from things that we now embrace.

31:20 So with this, first of all, if you're not familiar with eugenics, let me just define what eugenics is. So eugenics is the, it's a set of beliefs and practices that aim to improve the genetic quality of a human population. And historically eugenics or eugenics or whatever, however you say that, have altered various human gene frequencies by inhibiting the fertility of people and groups they considered inferior. Catch it or promoting that of those considered superior. So it's a form of population control.

32:00 And this is where the Negro project comes in. There's an article here actually just through a New York university. Called the I think it's, I think it's the Niagara I'm not going to try to read it because I can't even read it's in script, but anyway, in this article, which I'll post on our, on the, on the podcast where you can click and read the whole thing. I said some popular names like Mary McLeod Bethune and W. E. B. Du Bois and all these guys who were pulled in at the beginning of this thing. This is a project here for Margaret Sanger. Now, if you're not familiar with Margaret Sanger, she is famous for, and she's the basically founder and starter of Planned Parenthood.

32:50 And when you talk about eugenics and controlling populations, and then you, Think about Planned Parenthood. Obviously we're talking about in the case of abortion and which is a, a fire topic in almost every election season, but this one more than any other before, especially now that Roe v. Wade is gone. And I did an episode about this. I'm going to talk about this in the next episode. And this is where churches got in or didn't get into the picture in talking about that when it happened now, the thing about the Negro project was, there's a lot here and I'm, I'm not going to try to read all of this, but I do want to hit on some, some, some points here.

33:34 So by the late 1930s, birth control activists began to focus on high birth rates and poor quality of life in the South. Alerted to alarming south southern poverty by I'm sorry, alerted to an alarming southern poverty. By a 1938 U. S. National Resource Committee report, which asserted that southern poverty drained resources from other parts of the country. So starting in the mid 1930s, Sanger sent field workers, now catch this, because this is going to be really, really good. She sent field workers into the rural south to establish birth control services and poor care. Communities and conduct research. She sought to test various contraceptive jellies and foam powders to see if they could be effectively used without a diaphragm, which would be cheaper and easier for poor women to use physician and philanthropist Clarence Gamble.

34:29 Who was on the quest to find the best birth control for uneducated masses funded and supervised several of these rural Southern projects. So now, as we go further into this I'm going to, there's a part here. I really, really want you to see here in 1937, North Carolina became the first state to incorporate birth control services into a state. Statewide public health program, followed by six other southern states. However, these successes were clouded by the failure of the birth controllers to overcome segregated health services and improve African American access to contraceptives. So it goes into some of the little controversies here and whatnot.

35:11 But there's a part I, I let me get to it though, because I think this is super important. It's not this part here. It's it's so when she was having trouble promoting this, she needed the help of some very important people and here it is, however, once funding was secured, the project slipped from Sanger's hands and she had proposed that the money go to train up and and doing modern ministers. Colored and an up and doing modern colored medical man at her New York clinic, who would then tour as many Southern cities and organizations and churches and medical society as they can get before and preach and preach and preach as those are her words, she believed that After a year of such educational agitation in quotes, the federation could support a practical campaign for supplying mothers with contraceptives.

36:14 Now, before going in and establishing clinics, Sanger thought it critical to gain the support and involvement involvement of the African American community. Not just as leaders and establish a foundation of trust. Her proposal derived from the work of activists in the field, discussions with black leaders and her experience with the New York clinics. Sanger understood the concerns of some within the black community about having Northern whites intervened in the most. Intimate aspects of their lives. Quote, I don't believe she warned that this project should be directed or run by white medical men. The Federation should direct it to the guidance and assistance of the colored group, perhaps particularly, and specifically formed by form for the purpose to succeed.

37:02 She wrote, it takes a very strong heart and an individual well entrenched in the community. So Sanger reiterated the need for black ministers to head up the project in a letter to Clarence Gamble in December, 1939, arguing that quote, we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. And the minister is the man who can strengthen out that idea you. If it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members, unquote, now this passage was repeatedly extracted by singers, the tractors as evidence that she led a calculated effort to reduce the black population against their will.

37:47 And this was from even Angela Davis on the left, as well as other people on the right who connected her to. Hitler and KKK and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So we have here where she used ministers to spread the Negro project, which we now know today is Planned Parenthood, which we now know today is eugenics, which we now know today is abortion. Now, a lot of you out there. Or I should say the few of you out there who believe that abortion is something where it's a woman's body and everyone else needs to mind their business.

38:28 Look at the numbers of Black people in the world, well, I'm sorry, in this country, and you'll notice that it hasn't changed since the 80s. There's always, when I was in college in the eighties, they used to say, when we asked how many black people were in America, they said about, eh, about 40 million. Well, there's still supposedly about 40 million. What happened? Right? So what you have here, you have a situation that this was pushed by who? This was pushed by ministers. This was pushed, pushed by the church. This was pushed. So in other words, Margaret Sanger and the Negro Project use ministers and preachers to speak to the masses.

39:14 Oh, and by the way, in their words, the uneducated masses of Black people, especially in the South, to reduce their population. Now, I don't need to read any more of this. That should be enough right there. But in some cases for many of you listening, that's not enough. You, you, you know, you, you'll argue against this and et cetera, et cetera. But I want to show you how, though this was in 1939 and there's so much more to read here. I don't, I don't have time to read the whole thing and I will put that this story in the podcast notes so you can read it for yourself. I want to take you to a Leviticus chapter 21 through five, which says the Lord spoke to Moses saying, say to the people of Israel, any one of the people of Israel or the strangers who sojourned in Israel, who gives any of his children to Moloch shall surely be put to death.

40:10 Moloch was a. false God, false idol. It was, and also in the form of a statue with its arms out, and there would be a fire under Moloch that would heat these arms up. And what, and for human sacrifice, people would place their babies in the arms of Moloch. This is thousands of years ago. This is in the time of Leviticus. See the old Testament, gods or ant orcs, the old Testament demons perpetrate themselves. As gods didn't die just because it's the New Testament now and it's 2024 they still exist and they exist in forms like this from the Negro project, which wants to reduce the numbers of a certain group of people.

40:58 By using ministers to do it, this is her words, not mine. So you see here in Leviticus for all of you who think that, you know, we need to mind our business and let women take care of their bodies. This has nothing to do with the bite. We're, we're, we're, we're, we're actually defending the living person on the inside, that black child on the inside. But the only reason black mothers is doing this is because they've been tricked in some cases by these ministers. Because they trust him. That's why she used the ministers. They've been tricked to believe that this is not a child, that this is a lump. It's not a human being.

41:40 It's not a soul. It's not a creation. God, God, God prophesies to the baby in the womb. He doesn't prophesy to flesh, I mean, to to lumps of clay. But here he says, you know, If the people of the land do at all close, close their eyes to that man, when he gives one of his children to Moloch and do not put him to death, then I will set my face against that man and against his clan, and I will cut them off from among their people, him and all who follow him in whoring after Moloch. That's Leviticus 20, one through five. Right. That's just one.

42:21 I mean, there's several verses that talk about that, but I think that's enough right there. I want to take you somewhere else, because as we look at this, I want you to hear something, because that was her in 1939. But I want you to hear somebody here in today. So, this. Man, I'm going to play here is a politician, but a pastor first is Reverend Raphael Warnock. As you know, he ran, I believe he's a senator in Georgia. He actually passes the church that Martin Luther King senior pastor you know, decades ago.

43:04 In Atlanta. So a very prominent, very large church. He's very influential. Let me let you hear the words of a pastor today. If you don't believe this whole Margaret Sanger thing. Here goes. Oh, I, I believe that healthcare is a human right. And I believe that it is something that the richest nation in the world provides for its citizens. And for me, reproductive justice is consistent with my commitment to that. I believe unequivocally in a woman's right to choose. And that the decision it's something that we, we don't want government engaged in. That that's between her and her doctor and her minister.

43:49 So that's between her, her doctor, and he threw in the minister. So that's the minister pushing the Negro project. Now for all of you who say that's, well, we're talking about politics today, so it's okay for us to sound political if you want to go there, but I also want you to hear from one of our favorite little preachers that we like to Hear from time to time, or at least talk about from time to time. This guy Pastor Jamal Bryant. This week America turned back the hands of time and declared a war on women in this nation.

44:30 I wanted us to stand resolvely to say to this nation that if America was authentically pro life, then they would immediately abolish the death penalty. If they will really pro life. Then they would put more money into Head Start programs. If they were pro life, they would seek to cure the opiate addiction in this nation. If they were pro life, they would make sure that teachers feel safe in their schools. If they were pro life, there would be stiff, stricter measures about gun control in this nation. If it was pro life, we would not have to deal with this.

45:12 food insecurity. But I stand with now the living matriarch of the movement, Maxine Waters, who said they have declared war on 32 million women in this nation. And one thing about a woman when she is focused. She is not gonna stop until she gets what she needs. We stand, but we realize that this is not just a woman's issue. Unless I don't understand how pregnancy works, men have to extend their voices as well. So we speak to this nation to declare that New Birth stands with the amazing women of this church, of this community, and of this country, that women have The right to have authority over their body, and it should not be legislated by men in Washington, D.

46:05 C. I want all of us all over this room, would you do me a favor, would you celebrate the women around you who are competent enough to make decisions about their bodies, decisions about their life, and We're praying steadfastly because what we are seeing is racism rearing its head again. With this measure that has just taken place babe, black baby infant mortality is going to rise by 30% and hence we cover the lives of our mothers, of our pregnant mothers and our unborn babies.

46:47 I need you to do me a favor, please. While last. Sunday was a father's day today. We stand in the gap for mothers and for emerging mothers. I need you to do me a favor, please, because I need you to be mindful that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but they are mighty unto God for the pulling down of strongholds. There is something satanic afoot in Washington, DC. So today there's something satanic being said right then and there. Now you're talking about child mortality, yet you're talking about, you're upset about the fact that Roe v. Wade was just struck down in a pulpit on a Sunday morning.

47:34 Now, what's about to happen next while he's talking? There's parents with children walking because they're going to do a dedication service for kids. So, so while you're talking while these kids coming up, you're talking about supporting abortion or the Negro project that Margaret Sanger used pastors and ministers to push forth. So, this, it was so confusing. I can see why someone in the audience right there can hear, listen to the pastor that they trust, the preacher that they trust, why you're talking about reproductive this and health and this and mortality rates, but yet abortion actually increases the mortality because you're killing the child while he or she's still in the womb.

48:18 But we want to quote scripture that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Now that's satanic. You see, so how is all of this coming? How is all of this has anything to do with black men or men voting for Kamala Harris? It has very little to do with Kamala Harris. It has more to do with black men are tired of people telling them what they need to do. See what he doesn't talk about here is he said, yeah, he said that abortion is not just a woman. It's also a man, but in most of these cases, the men are either a not made aware or be not given an option or a choice in the matter.

49:00 So if that man, that, that potential father wants to see his child born. Then that woman doesn't always give him that option. Now, I do understand. I'm not ignorant here that there are men who pay women for abortions, especially if they have other true relationships, like they're married or something like that. I get that part too, but we're, you know, we're using one evil to cover up another evil, but see what we have here. We have a preacher who's not. Who's not talking about men and women being responsible with their bodies and in their relationships or being kept in as far as out of fornication or adultery.

49:42 No, not talking about that. He's talking about when one is pregnant, given that woman. The beautiful option of killing that child eugenics or the Negro project, and then having the audacity to talk about racism when that Negro project was the ultimate case of racism by wiping out the race and minimizing the numbers and using men and ministers to promote it. And we want to wonder why black men are not voting for the, for the democratic candidate. It's not about the democratic candidate. It's about wondering, why are you asking why black men have to do what you want them to do instead of finding out what do black men or what do men want?

50:33 See, you're asking the wrong question. Ask men, what do you want? But before you go there, Mr. or Mrs. Politician. Why don't you share with black men or men, your policies or your vision? Why don't you try to win them? See, when, when we played that click, that, that clip from Obama, speaking with the men, why wasn't the candidate speaking to these men? See, if you want to win them, why would you send a surrogate? If you want to win them, why won't you talk to them?

51:15 It looks like you can't talk to them. Because the candidate would rather show up on women's shows like The View and all these other shows to try to win men. You can't win men, but you go to shows where men are not and you send a black president, former black president. See, we're, we're, we're talking down to men and we're specifically talking down to black men and black men had enough. We hadn't, we hadn't got anything from our vote for all of these decades, for 50 years or more, black men hadn't gotten a darn thing from their vote and they keep seeing their numbers in society and on the planet dwindle and get killed and, and I'm not talking about white cops, because that might, that might, that might add up to a hundred people.

52:06 Oh, no, no, no, no. We're talking about in the tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands per year. That that was assigned in 1939 and ministers like the two we just played right there are the proponents who preach on it and you want to ask why black men ain't voting. Okay. Why black men ain't voting. Black men are not voting because no one is trying to win them. They're only telling them what they should do and treating them, treating them like boys or kids or imbeciles.

52:51 Black men are highly intelligent. Black men lead their families. Forget about that stupid stuff you're hearing about. Oh, it's only so many percentage of, of black men lead the family. No, no, there's a lot, a high percentage of black men leads in their family. All of them aren't necessarily married. I'm not saying, you know, that you know, I obviously condone for marriages, but a man leading his family is still a man leading this family. If those were his kids and he's leading that household and they may not be married, I believe they should be married. But if they're not, he is still leading that house. We like to say it's all led by women. It's not. A lot of these families are being led by men.

53:33 Well, and another thing is that we don't talk enough about the single fathers. So if you want to talk down to black men and then wonder why black men aren't voting for a candidate whom they might think is not, maybe not fit. Maybe not bright enough obviously looks down on them. Doesn't even want to face them face to face and win them herself. And then for everyone else to be wondering, well, how come they won't vote for her as they should? And they, well, the, the answer is they should not, unless you, unless you go after them and win them.

54:18 But obviously what that means is you're not winning them and you hadn't been winning them now for decades. For the last 20 years, since about, since the time of Clinton and then Obama and then black men have been coming out of either the Democrat party and going independent or conservative or, or creating options, black men believe in options. And they've, we've been doing that for a long time, but this, this didn't start in the year of Kamala Harris. This was before Biden. This was before Obama. This was before Trump. This was before George W. Bush.

54:59 Black men have been creating options and black men want options. If you remember the thing with Ice Cube a few years ago, in the first election with Biden, he said, listen, I got this this proposal. I want to put before the Democrats and also put before the Republicans. And the Democrats never even checked it out. Trump at the time did and looked into it. See, black men are only looking for options. Now, I'm not here to promote politics and politicians is the answer. That's not where I stand either. As you already know, I'm a biblical worldview kind of guy, but I do believe that believers are supposed to vote. You can vote however you want, but you're, but you, you know, you should vote with your convictions.

55:45 Facts, but what we won't do is we're not going to vote for who somebody is telling you who to vote for or vote for someone who someone is saying, I'm disappointed. You're not voting for because a lot of these men have very harsh words. I don't use that kind of language here, but they basically told about what he can do with his votes. And for all the black pastors that's listening, understand those black men will say the same thing to you in your face. If you, if you bring that to them as far as what they should do and what they need to be doing, because for too long, for too long, and I got episode and I'm going to play this next week. I have too many episodes where black men are told what they need to be doing what they need to be voting how they should do a thing, what they shouldn't be doing.

56:33 And always being told what to do. Never, you never consult with black people, I mean, sorry, black men. Black women are better. Listen to the black women, the black women have the answer. Well, the black women don't have the answer because if black women have the answer and they've been supposedly leading all these times, then our community should be 10 times better. The answer is not there. The natural order, the divine order of of man is man lead, can women lead? Sure. Women can lead, but they're not going to leave men because real men are not going to be led by women.

57:14 And see, there is the other part to the question on why black men, perhaps, I can't answer for everybody, but perhaps why they won't vote for the candidate. Because many don't want to be led by a woman. Now I'm not saying whether that's right or wrong, but I, well, what, what I am saying is that that is one of the options that's out there. And it's all over the place. The other part too, and, and I'm going to play this on next week on, on former episodes, on past episodes, a lot of black people said, well, well, black men, I said, I've said, well, what has the last black president done for us?

57:57 And they're saying, well, he hasn't done anything for us. Now you want us to run on your, on, on, on your past experience, but we, but you don't have any success with black men. So we're supposed to vote for her. Because you're telling us to, and we have no success with you. So this might sound like a political episode. It's not, I'm really doing this more as a response to the questions that's out there both locally and internationally. The question is asking about black men, and this show is about men. This is Man to Man 360, and we've been now for five seasons talking about what Black men need, what Black men have been asking for, what Black men have been lacking, and yet people have been telling Black men what they should do, have, all these other things.

58:53 Well, your chickens have come home to roost. From 1939 until now, your chickens have come home to roost. Now, you know, this is just a sliver. This isn't even the whole conversation. The conversation is way bigger. There's way more other reasons, but this is a sliver on why Black men are not voting the way you want and Black men are not doing what you want them to do because they're tired of it and no one wants to hear from them.

59:33 That's why. But here at Man to Man 360, we're four men by men dealing with all subjects. The twist here is we come from a biblical worldview where we encourage and empower men to make it in life through the power of Jesus Christ. And with that, With that, man, I encourage you to be very prayerful and discerning and learn the and to learn the policies, the ones that convict, the ones that if, if God was going to judge you tomorrow, you'd be okay with siding with these things and black men know what they want.

1:00:25 But black men, especially if you are believers. Especially if you're men of God and you lead families, do the right thing here, do the right thing here. Don't listen to politicians and don't even listen to preachers who are telling you what you need to do. You be prayerful and you check your, you check your spirit and your discernment and then you feel comfortable then after you know that you may be judged because of your answer. Then whatever answer, whichever side you chose, that's fine. Then at least you know you chose because that's who you believe you've been compelled to vote for.

1:01:06 But I wouldn't say get out of the, you know, not to not vote, even though millions have not. That's why there is no 92 or 98 percent Black people voting for one party. That's not true. You're lucky if half that number is half, it may be more like 40 percent because the others just are not even registered. They do not vote at all. So listen, I'm going to wrap this up because I can't wait to put together next week's episode, which I'm going to jump right into. We're going to pull apart pull aside all of the episodes from from previous seasons.

1:01:48 And we're going to answer this question even more so. On why black people are doing what they do, black men specifically, I'm sorry, are doing what they do or not doing what you don't want them doing. But black men are, there's, there's, there's history here. So listen, I am Daryl Anderson, your host. This is Man to Man 360 and we are out. This episode of Man to Man 360 is a wrap, but you can check us out next week, wherever you get your podcast and listen on demand. Earlier or exclusive content. Visit us at man to man 360. com. That's man. The number two, man, 360.

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